Legends and Dragons 53- Kyle Hessler

Posted on Monday, May 5, 2025
Kyle Hessler joins Jimmy and Chance.

Show Notes

Kyle Hessler joins Jimmy and Chance.

The hosts begin by discussing the importance of safe driving, particularly avoiding tailgating, especially in bad weather.

Chance Burleson shares his recent achievement of earning a blue belt in jiu-jitsu, reflecting on the new pressures and expectations that come with the promotion.

The conversation shifts to the unique story each belt tells in jiu-jitsu, and how it represents an individual’s journey and experiences in the martial art.

The hosts discuss the evolving nature of jiu-jitsu, noting a trend towards a softer, more playful approach compared to the traditional grind.

They explore the effectiveness of different martial arts in street fighting scenarios, highlighting wrestling’s rigorous training methodology.

The discussion touches on the potential downsides of overly aggressive training methods, emphasizing the importance of balancing performance with the well-being of the individual.

Kyle shares his background in martial arts, from karate and wrestling to his experiences in MMA and kickboxing.

Kyle recounts his journey back to jiu-jitsu after a break, emphasizing its positive impact on his mental health and overall well-being.

The hosts delve into the mental and spiritual aspects of martial arts, particularly the sense of fulfillment and purpose it provides. Kyle reflects on his initial discomfort with his jiu-jitsu belt, feeling like a “sandbagger” due to his prior experience.

The conversation concludes with Kyle sharing his experiences in pro wrestling promotion and his thoughts on the importance of martial arts in providing a sense of purpose and fulfillment.

Guests

Kyle Hessler

Hosts

Jimmy Clouse

Jimmy Clouse

Jimmy is an Air Traffic Controller and a first degree black under the training of Grand Master Miguel Valdez, the Blind Dragon.

Chance Burleson

Chance Burleson

Chance is a 8th degree black belt in American Karate and is the Chief Instructor and Co-founder of Legends Martial Arts Inc. Since the age of five, Chance was trained by his father Grandmaster J. Pat Burleson. Grandmaster Burleson was the first United States Karate Champion in 1964.